An Exploration of the Divinity of Healthy Sexuality
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Sexual repression has led to all sorts of social and psychological problems in the United States and abroad. This can really be seen in the Middle East, where men literally torture themselves over their natural, wonderful sexual feelings; feelings they blame as a consequence of women. This not only makes a mockery of equal rights for the sexes, but, eventually, causes horrible double standards in these countries, where women may be stoned to death if they commit adultery or even if they are raped. I won’t even discuss clitoral castration.
Jesus never said masturbation should not be enjoyed to the fullest extent, and viewing porn to assist one with private fantasies is much healthier than visiting prostitutes to lying to women to get them to sleep with you. But within the world of porn, there is a danger.
As you’re probably well aware, the WWW is strewn with pitfalls to get you to view images that depict acts that certainly go against our Christian faith. Images of men and women engaged in unnatural, degrading, and seemingly violent acts have nothing to do with the beautiful element of self love. The individual exploration of our bodies, and the special feelings it can give us when touched correctly, can, and should, be like playing a musical instrument. Christian masturbation is what we are talking about.
There has never been anything wrong with masturbation; it won’t make you go blind or cause hair to grow on your palms. It is a whole lot healthier to touch ourselves for pleasure than to force ourselves to ignore these natural needs and experience guilt when we give in to them. And trust me, we all give in to them, and we should not feel guilty when we do because God most certainly created them for us to enjoy.
Wouldn’t it seem funny if everyone went around plugging their noses or eating only bark because someone thousands of years ago said smell or taste went against God’s will? Well, I for one think God knows what His will is! And if someone says He does not want us to explore our bodies, then that person (and what a very gutsy person) is saying God made a mistake. He placed our genitals within reach of our hands with unwavering confidence! Of course, just as you don’t eat bacon all day long, you don’t want to lock yourself in your room for a whole day and give yourself tennis elbow! But certainly a little yummy slice now and then can’t hurt.
Sweet Christians is a site that will celebrate the wonders of physical exploration in a safe, Christian environment, by Christians and for Christians. Thanks for joining us, and come back soon!
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By Tommy Craig, December 27, 2006 @ 1:09 pm
Is there a link to these pictures that you talk about?
By Tommy Craig, December 27, 2006 @ 1:15 pm
I am a Christian guy who needs this kind of thing
By admin, December 28, 2006 @ 5:40 am
Hi, Tommy,
You can visit our page http://innocentsweeties.com/ for some sample pics of what we’re trying to accomplish and bring to Sweet Christians. There are also places to put your comments regarding the pics, so you can give a thumbs up or thumbs down for each one, or just the set overall. Thanks for your interest, and have a great day!
By Damo, December 28, 2006 @ 2:58 pm
I’m not trying to attack or be offensive, so please don’t take these questions as such, but I would like to ask, what biblical basis do you rely on to ‘justify’ this position on sexuality? If I were to teach my cell group anything on this topic, how would you suggest I do it? What’s to stop me from saying you people are just sex-crazed people looking for a way to justify looking at porn?
Cheers
Damo
By admin, January 22, 2007 @ 9:30 am
Hey, Damo,
No offense taken, for sure. There is no scripture to “justify” our position. But there is no scripture, we feel, that refutes our position, either. There is the wonderful Genesis 1:27, God creating us in his own image, that we refer to when considering the acceptable, positive act of masturbation, something the Lord, for whatever reason, enabled us, and thus meant for us, to engage in.
We would not suggest you use our site at an example for your cell group. I mean, really, we’re just a site promoting the taboo topic of Christian sexuality, so doubtfully we would be a valid source of reference for your group. As for you calling us sex-crazed people looking for porn, you will have to make your own educated decision. The choice is up to you. Cheers, Dean
By Damo, January 24, 2007 @ 3:43 am
Dean,
Thanks for your reply! You sure took your time!
Could I present an opinion that the Gen 1:27 verse of God making us in their image refers to the pre-fall/glorified Adam? Yes, our arms are long enough to reach our package, but our arms are also long enough to scratch our butts. But then also never long enough to scratch that really difficult spot on your back, which then leaves your arm in an awkward position AND your itch still isn’t scratched…
Humourous analogies aside, I agree that some of the teachings of what I label ‘modern Christianity’ (the christianity presented in a modern context that seems to come from a strong marketing/advertising background that doesn’t delve deep enough into the hard issues) have definitely lost a good deal of the flavour of what the original prophets had in mind when they were inspired by the Holy Spirit (english translation, modern contextualisation, yada yada yada). However, I also think a great deal of caution is needed when presenting a new interpretation of scripture, lest we become licentious with our faith and beliefs, lead ourselves into a situation we shouldn’t be in, and thus lead people to discredit the name of our glorious Lord and Saviour.
I’m not a preacher or in any leadership position in a church, but I do a lot of behind-the-scenes ministry and counselling, and as part of my ‘ministry’, I do a lot of reading on issues and topics that would not normally be considered in ‘modern Christianity’, and I find it useful to see both sides of the coin, if you get what I’m saying.
Please email me privately. I would love to continue the debate (debate, not argument)!
Regards and blessings,
Damo
p.s. Don’t use ‘Cheers’. Americans trying to do Australian slang just doesn’t cut it
(just pulling your leg, mate! use Aussie slang all you like. The more people speaking Australian english, the better!)
By Mario, February 24, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Interesting discussion. By the way, Damo, “cheers” is British, generally, not just Aussie. God is love. Masturbation: this can be a definite kind of love. Basically, I think that people develop all kinds of funny complexes because of the preponderance of taboos we seem to relish reinforcing, but for what? Jesus was fond of pointing up the backwardness of strict adherence to dogma and social more’s. And even if he didn’t, we remember Basho, the Zen master and comedian who delighted in the sound of “one hand slapping.” Yuk yuk!! God surely seems to enjoy and perpetuate a deep hankering for the absurd, too. Look at the giraffe, chimera, aardvark for the love of God!….Anyway, more power to ya. And, as far as I’m concerned, marriage and sexual expectations may not be exactly equal categories of human relationship, but they are both equally contrived and, fascinatingly, plastic (that is, moldable). I think that a Christian that hasn’t read and comprehended Sartre, or Camus, Picasso or, hell, Rilke, is half asleep anyway. Jesus was a flaming LIBERAL! The kindgom of God……yours! Meister Eckhart said: “Ye people, why do you look without for that which is within.” Guess what guys…..Jesus is not the only one who has said, and lived, that stuff….here’s just a few I SINCERELY challenge you to wrestle with: Dogen, Sri Yukteswar, Ramana Maharshi, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, Paramahansa Yogananda, and Sri Ramakrishna…..Eat your hearts out.
I dare you to publish this for the sake of actualizing dialogue. Remember, blessed are the poor in heart.
Cheers.
M
By Damo, March 7, 2007 @ 3:49 am
Folks,
Mario: Considering us Aussie’s came from the British anyway, it’s all much of a muchness in some respects, but then I’ve got a couple of British friends at work, and we give it to each other whenever we meet. Yes, we were your convicts, but we’re now a bit smarter…
I’ve had a bit of a read, and I would like to now add a bit of fuel to the debate…
Is masturbation a kind of love, or just a form of release of sexual tension? When a man sees images of naked women, gets sexually aroused, and then goes and does his business to relieve the excitement, is that really love? Sure, it may be an expression of emotion, but could we really call it love? Is there another term for what I’m trying to think of that isn’t the word ‘masturbation’? Seeing pictures of women in bondage being represented almost as pieces of meat on a platter for our physical pleasures, we then go off, ejaculate, and think nothing more of it until the next time we decide to prostitute ourselves and the women, is it really the best thing for us to be doing? Maybe this is one point where the debate lies. That’s why I look for sites like these, to see if someone can give an answer. I like how this site isn’t just a jiggle show for the debased, and does try to present pronography in a sensible context, but on the other hand, is Mr Dean being too licentious and taking too many liberties? My honest initial impression is that he is, but thats why I’m participating as well, to see what he has to say for himself, see if he can convince me, to let him show me that his version of Christianity has a solid foundation to it and can stand the test of criticism. I’m not going to howl this site down as wolf in sheeps clothing as a kneejerk reaction, because its very easy to do that. If I want to criticise what is happening here, I want to do it for good reason. If there is a point I’m missing, by all means show it to me.
I’ve had a quick read about those fellows you suggested reading on (haven’t read their works, just read about them), and to be honest, I think I know where the path is leading, and it isn’t anything I haven’t read before. I used to be a New-Age practitioner before I was saved, and now that I have a deeper understanding of the way of the spiritual world, I can see where the Hindu/Buddhist/Taoist/New Age line comes from, but without Jesus, it doesn’t mean much. Yeah, its good teaching, but we’re forgetting one fundamental principle: we’re sinners! All the other religions tend to say that we ourselves can achieve the levels of ‘righteousness’ or ‘peace’ required to find whatever form of salvation is offered, but Jesus said that we can’t do it! “Whoever tries to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life will pick it up again”. I agree that the human tri-being can achieve many things, but when we leave Jesus out of the equation, we lose the source of true righteousness.
In your quoting of ‘God is love’, I will agree there, and further that ‘love covers a multitude of sins’, but as one of my friends asked me recently, doesn’t that give is a license to sin? No, it doesn’t! God’s love can be a bit like an insurance policy: Sure, it will cover you, it can make things right, but if the accident is your fault, you’ve got some work to do. Its a lot better to not let yourself get in trouble in the first place! Want to have a car accident? Sure, but when it comes to claiming on the insurance, you’ve got to show you’re serious about keeping on the right track!
Complexes about taboos? Interesting…me thinks taboos were invented for a reason. The way I see it, taboos represent a form of moral guidance. I ain’t saying they are always 100% right, but they seem to give a good indication. The reason teenage pregnancies were taboo back in the old days were so that the girl didn’t give the impression she was a tramp, and thus shame herself and her parents, and the child. Rape cases are obviously different, but for consensual pre-marital intercourse, when you willingly play with fire, you tend to get burnt. Maybe masturbation is taboo and unspoken of is so that when you greet someone with a hug or a handshake, you really don’t want to think of ‘where their hands have been’. Not to sound so conservative (if I haven’t already!), but maybe the moral majority have a point! Don’t do stupid things, don’t get stupid consequences…
As for sexual repression (and the issues associated with such), that’s an interesting case. In my own life, I do have a need for physical intimacy (as my wife could testify to!), as would most men, but I’ve also found that physical intimacy doesn’t become so much of an issue when my need for emotional intimacy is satiated. Could it be that people with sexual repression issues are those that haven’t found something or someone to share their emotional longings with? Are they trying to fill an emotional hole? Yes, a person can be well-balanced and adjusted, but it doesn’t mean that everything is in perfect order. Something to think about…
I would also present the case that throughout history, those who have been non-conformist have also made some significant contributions to society. As the old Smashmouth song goes, “Only shooting stars break the mould”!
Let us thank the Lord Jesus Christ for allowing us to receive the Holy Spirit, the Counsellor and teacher of truth. Amen
Fully sick (now lets see the yanks or brits come up with something as genius as that!)
-Damo
By MudkipLuvor, April 14, 2007 @ 8:44 pm
LOL you guys are such hypocrites. You sure as hell don’t NEED any pr0ns, and this toned down bullshit is a VERY sorry excuse for it. The only reason why any of you would want to see this shit is cuz your wife is so ugly you can’t get a hard on and have no real emotional attraction so you can’t get one from that, either. You fucking people fail HARD.
By Tanasinn, April 15, 2007 @ 4:04 am
..What kind of sick Christians are you?!
By Kevin, July 13, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
‘No offense taken, for sure. There is no scripture to “justify” our position. But there is no scripture, we feel, that refutes our position, either.’ admin on January 22nd, 2007
“You have heard it said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Matthew 7:27-28
I am not trying to be offensive or spiteful, but I can’t understand how you can say that nothing in scripture refutes what you are doing. When a man looks at a naked woman in porn (and I don’t care how “toned down” it is, he will naturally lust after her, which is clearly labeled as sinful in the above passage. I’m curious, how do you rationalize that. My flesh would love nothing more than for you to be right so I could feel release from my own sexual frustration, but the Bible clearly states that its wrong. Do you have any response to that?
By Bazza, July 19, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
This is real good stuff u guys are doing
forget all that stuff from MudkipLuvor and Tanasinn
what you are trying to do is a good cause
just try and keep it free thougth as if you start charging it will just turn into another prodostandt dollar spinner
cheers
By Jakul Dude, August 29, 2007 @ 7:39 pm
Thanx 4 coming up with this Christian pornsite. I’m glad I’m not alone in this. Being born-again for 20 years & never experiencing sexual intercourse, it’s hard not to masturbate. I did foreplay & oral sex, but never had I gone all the way, because of the possibility of unwanted pregnancy & STDs. I had been searching for a Christian community that says that it is okay to enjoy porn and masturbate. I believe our hunger for porn is rooted in our deep longing for real heterosexual relationships. Masturbation releases that passion, just like our need to urinate. I believe marriage is still the best alternative to porn & jacking off. It is written in 1 Cor 7, “Because of immorality (fornication), let each man have their own wife, and each woman their own husband.” and “It is better to marry than to burn in passion”. While I still have to stay single a little while longer (because I’m not yet in a committed relationship with a Christian girl), it’s nice to masturbate & enjoy porn during the last days of bachelorhood, to deal & cope up with the loneliness. May all of us “horny Christians” find our marriage partners, so we can have totally guilt-free sex! For the mean time, why not have this site as a place where Christian single porn addicts/masturbators of the opposite sex meet their match & find love, that conquers the power of porn & lust? May God bless you all and may He grant you the desires of your heart! Peace!
By Martin Manser, January 5, 2008 @ 5:34 pm
Hey ummm I say some Youtube video talking about Christian porn saying how they didn’t understand it and I had to see what the hell was going on. I don’t know about masturbation, but it clearly states in the bible not to look at a womens body in a sexual way because then you might as well have commited adultery. I don’t know how you got the idea to do this, but do you REALLY think that porn is okay for a Christian to view. I It is easy to try and justify something as being acceptable when you have the desire to do it. I’m not going to lie, I’ve struggled with the problem of looking at porn myself, but I know it is wrong because it is turning the beauty of sex meant to be shared by two married people that have devoted their life to eachother and turning it into something with without meaning that is degrading to women in general. Sure there are the pornstars and everything, but as far as I know women in general don’t want to feel like sex objects, they want to be treated like people, with compassion and love, how they should be treated. I don’t want you to take this in any bad way, and I admire your try at helping men with this universal problem of porn that we all face, but I don’t agree with the way you are trying to do it. I don’t want to ask you to take down this website, though honestly I would be grateful if you did. I just want you to think about the message you are sending to people around the world about Christianity, and though you may think what you are doing is fine, if it isn’t, as I don’t think it is in the eyes of God, think about all the men who might go along with this when In the eyes of God this may very well be a sin as I think it is. It could mess up a lot of peoples lives. And I don’t know what you told that girl that you took those pictures of, but if you continue this then Christian women might begin to think that all they really are is sex objects as well. What will the world come to then? Please reply to me as sincerly as you can I want to know what you think about this.
God help us all and may we all figure it out one day.
-Martin
By sexychristfollower, January 20, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
I am a single woman and I have been walking with the Lord for several years. While many believers view sexuality as something made to be reserved for marriage, I disagree. Intercourse, oral sex and any type of involvement with others that becomes a gateway for adultery are unacceptable in scripture. However, people need to find realistic ways to release and embrace their sexuality. Because I have learned to be comfortable with sexual urges and my body, I feel as if I have been more confident with the way God has made me. I am not on the road to being married as of yet and I don’t plan on bashing my head in with a Bible and to be made to feel guilty brothers and sisters in Christ who urge me to just stuff it and wait for a husband before I could have an orgasm. Don’t Christian men want confident Christian women? And why is it that the Christian culture majority in the US think that only men want sex and that women are the ones with the “headaches”?
By Steve Roy Barlow, January 25, 2008 @ 5:45 am
firstly i must disagree with the fact that you are doing this, because the whole reson that porn is wrong is because it stimulates my penal region into overdrive and make me whoopsy in my trousers, like when mummy use to touch me.
By Ehud, January 25, 2008 @ 5:53 am
I am deeply disturbed by this site – not because it has images of a sexual nature, but because it is CHRISTIAN porn!
The reason that porn is wrong is because it causes feelings of lust, which are sinful, it’s not the fact that it is unmarried people having sex (that is their sin) it is that i cause myself to lust, and the Lord says i should not.
Paul says that it is good for a man to remain unmarried, but if he cannot control himself, then it is better that he should marry.
As Children of God we are called to be Holy as he is Holy, not parading ourselves for the pleasure of lust, and causing them to sin, but living such good lives amongst the pagans, that though the accuse us of wrong doing, we will be guiltless.
I hope that the Lord will cause this site to shut down – not as punishment, because we know that the Lord does not punish on this earth, but rather as a rebuke, to get you back on track with him.
By alan, September 11, 2008 @ 8:47 pm
im a christian who agrees with christian porn, that is nonprofit christian porn– that makes a profit only enough to keep going.
anything is preferable to cold commercialized porn.
By Mike Schintgen, April 28, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
I am a christian guy who basically agrees with your position. I don’t see how any male can resist his urges when we are constantly bombarded by sexual images as part of modern day culture without becoming a basket case.
I also see the need for porn that is not degrading or otherwise contrary to Christian values. But I am a bit unclear on what would distinguish Christian porn from certain examples of mainstream ’secular’ porn. I.e, if what you present at innocentsweeties.com is okay, is their anything wrong with enjoying similar images from a model like Alison Angel, for example?
Thanks for your thought provoking and courageous site!
Mike
Could you
By glen, August 12, 2009 @ 7:48 pm
christian porn is great,not those with sexual hang ups to ruin ones live ,do you have anything about moses an goats ,
By Phil, August 13, 2009 @ 6:06 pm
I’ve seen something like this before at purerotic.org and think it’s a great idea!
I hope to see your website up and running soon!
By admin, August 14, 2009 @ 2:08 am
Thanks for the great comments! We’re still working on the details. I know it’s been a slow process, but there is a learning curve here and we’re trying out best!
By Mike, August 23, 2009 @ 12:34 pm
Great to hear that the site is still a go. Any estimate when it will be ready?
By Dave Poldras, October 8, 2009 @ 8:11 pm
Hi,
Your idea is interesting. Everyone knows the porn establishment is not producing a great product. That’s why one person referred to porn as sh*t. Somehow the attitude of non believers towards and incredible design gets twisted so they refer to it as a waste product. It’s joked about, degraded, and mechanized. Establishment porn is often passionless, unhealthy, degrading to women, and performed outside the boundaries of God’s design.
I can envision “Christian porn” as exalting God’s design in sex. For instance, most porn scenes end in coitus interuptus–not the most enjoyable or fulfilling scenario. It follows a fairly predictable formula and often lacks true chemistry between participants. It is not an accurate portrayal of God designed sex, and has the potential of influencing a generation with erroneous concepts regarding sex.
The challenge will be in portraying unseen chemistry between participants, which is definitely a major player in sex. It will also be a challenge not to lower to unnatural concepts regarding the body, such as breast implants, shaved pubic areas, and unnaturally large male members.
Sex is a very personal thing and needs to be treated with the utmost respect and honour.
By Hopeful, October 11, 2009 @ 6:46 am
Admin, Please see http://www.BiblicalSexuality.com, as it reveals some alarming and amazing things about this subject and that you might appreciate. The writer there has extensively researched the subject, and discovered various things that should make an discreet and open minded man reconsider the whole subject.
By Gil, December 22, 2009 @ 9:29 am
Porn is wrong hands down, people are trying to justify this stuff when they know its wrong if the bible says that if you look upon a women with lust that you have already committed adultery then this is just a tool for the devil to help you sin, this is wrong and i guarantee you that if jesus was next to you that you would not recommend christian porn to him.
By ne, December 25, 2009 @ 4:31 am
in christianity, we don’t confirm to the patterns of this world. porn is the product of human fleshly desires and the devils deceptive plan. if a christian doesn’t feel guilt after masterbuating, he should reconsider if he’s born again or not.
By louisiana christian, December 30, 2009 @ 12:40 pm
I don’t this article to give the wrong impression. What the author says is wrong in most way but correct in a few. The author states that it is natural to masturbate which is true. But it is also part of our human nature to sin but does that mean its ok. Absolutely not! Masturbation is an act of lust and lust is like committing adultery, which we all know is in fact a sin. As far as sexual exploration, that should take place after marriage and only then.
NOW as far as Porn goes. Once again Lust!
now we all my commit these sins. and once again the author is correct, “we should not wallow in guilt But that is because as Christians we are save by Gods Sovereign Grace and Jesus Christ has already died for our sin as long as we repent.
In Christ
By Malcolm, January 1, 2010 @ 10:42 pm
Masturbation is wrong, Jesus said if a man looks upon a woman to lay with her has committed adultery in his heart. Any sex without being married is wrong, the bible is very clear on that.
By NClovebeds, January 3, 2010 @ 3:48 pm
Gentlemen,
Please, let’s drop the judgement attitude for a while. After 26+ yrs. of marriage, I can look back from the past and realize I was once like some of you. Lets suck it up here and become the man of God he desires for all of us. We have a dying world out there that wants nothing to do w/ Christ followers. Now, XXX Church comes along and goes into the center of a lost world to bring that time saving message of “Christ died for you” and yes, God Loves Porn stars too. I wish I would have had a healthy sexual view that masturbation “can be” a healthy way to prepare yourself for your wedding nite. The Bible is silent on the subject of masturbation. God intended it that way. Satan is the one who uses it in the Christian community to divide us so we cannot be as effective because of our “infighting and judging one another”. Learn how your body works and celebrate his creation of yourselves as sexual beings(Within the context of the commandments). Your future wives may one day thank you, besides blessing your undefiled marriage bed!!
By Akwasi, January 9, 2010 @ 11:23 pm
Hello Wonderful people,
I stumbled upon this site researching what porn means to Christians. I have not been disappointed by the debate thread. So interesting. I have also visited some of the links given. Vivid!
I must say I admire people like Damo who looks at debate in the face and go for it with a well informed mind. Most of us only know the ‘It’s wrong or it’s good’ without any basis. I love ‘Admin’ for saying at a point that there is ‘a learning curve’ taking place. How humbling.
Aside all the debates, I have a few short comments to make. It’s good to explore our wonderful God-given bodies but we must do it within the confines of God’s loving commandments. Watching naked girls,stimulating yourself with your hands or other objects to ejaculation or orgasm will not lead you the right way. Like alcohol or other drugs, you will always yearn for more ‘hardcore’ and by the time you know it, you are at the deepest end of ‘hell.’ There you will realize you were not smarter than the devil at all (He is more than a million years older than you and has been practicing his art of deception before you were born yesterday)
I think the thoughtful people who put up this website simply identified a need and wanted to help solve it in a ‘Christian’ way. How many marriages haven’t we found having sexual problems because one or both partners were very naive or too informed and expected too much in a marrige relationship. But I have found out that the best way to deal with the issue is through one-on-one teen, youth, pre-marital or marrital counselling with counsellors who have enjoyed sex in marriage and and are ready to share age appropriate information. I must confess that the best way to enjoy sex is if you have read or heard the good, appropriate information and are sure your partner is also fresh and just ready to explore. Then in marriage you find yourselves exploring for life! There is something to learn everyday. Call it ‘appropriate hardcore addiction in marriage with the presence of not cameras but the Spirit of God taking snaps and blessing you.’
Every good intention can be perveted if we are not alert. And I think this site will eventually head people back to real porn if that learning curve doesn’t curl in the right direction!
One question, you need to ask yourself is: ‘I am emotionally satisfied after watching Christian porn?’ Don’t you always want more? Don’t you crave within? And if we take being caught watching porn or having sex with someone you are not marriage to and getting an STI/AIDS out of the equation wouldn’t you seek out real sex after watching Christian porn? What else defines lust?
You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love.
(Gal 5:13-from New International Version)
I love you since I belong to God who loves you to nuts!
By dale, January 16, 2010 @ 2:13 am
to those who seem to be of the mindset that porn inately forces adulterous nature, please explain how a commited married relationship is any different.
It is my beleif that a person must be strong in thier faith to deal with anything “beyond the norm”. For a person to follow your set of doctrine, and never know porn, they are disregarding and shoving aside a population that they seem to beleive need god.
This is a staple of our old buddies the pharisees, who betrayed and murdered Jesus. Thier purpose was to sit back, say im holier than thou, and ignore anything that just might change that holiness.
think about teh PURPOSE of teh biblical teachings throughout both the old and new testaments, before choosing a verse at random (like the one in the sermon on the mount) and exclaiming its interpretation in your mind.
By Sam, January 16, 2010 @ 11:20 am
You are on the right path now! What a wonderful job you are doing against so many protests! Do Christians who oppose your efforts really think that they are different in their natual and physical bodies than non-Christians. Represion of one’s own human desires is the root of all that is UNnatural! I think you’re representation of human sexuality is wonderful. Your fresh approach to many of the problems with Christian repression of sexuality is commendable. When I saw your first set of pictures I did not feel that I was viewing porn; only the natural curiosity of a young woman. I hope you will pursue this breakthrough in your way of expressing clean Christian openminedness. And, furthermore, you’re not advocating pre-marital sex, but some of the comments here seem to jump to that conclusion. To see something other than what is there is in the mind of the beholder. …and that’s the real sin (for those people).
Sam
By Sam, January 16, 2010 @ 11:26 am
Study after study has revealed that viewing porn does NOT lead to abnormal behavior of men toward women. Relief thru masterbation helps keep in check any abnormal actions that men might want to ‘force’ on women as is freared in a few of the comments here.
By Sam, January 18, 2010 @ 10:50 am
Someone once asked: “How do you know it’s porn?” The reply was: “You’ll know it when you see it.”
I just don’t see it here. I’m looking forward to more pics like you’ve shown and perhaps with more mature (older) Chritian women to give me a choice of age groups. I know there are some very sexy Christian women out there. Please find some who would be willing to share their God given attractiveness with me in this medium of Christian awareness. I do appreciate a nicely tuned female form. And they don’t have to be nude, just looking their best in a nice sexy, tight fitting Sunday outfit! If I were you I’d start there and not call it porn at all. Amen.
By Akwasi, January 19, 2010 @ 3:39 pm
Good people out there!
I ONLY have a single simple question: Would you want your daughter to pose nude for the entire world to appreciate God’s gift or would you your wife?
Do unto others as….
By Shelley, January 23, 2010 @ 3:39 am
I am a married christian woman and there are a few thoughts I want to share on this issue.
1) Why do you assume only men have these urges and therefore only have female images?
2) As a married woman, I am aware of what it takes for a man to relieve sexual pressure from his penis. He can be thinking of almost anything and he’ll still get there in the end. Sure it’d be quicker if he were looking at a half naked woman, but if you are truly “loving yourself” and not just indulging in sick pornographic fantasy then taking time should not be an issue.
3) I appreciate the concept of this site, more than many would think, and more power to you if you are taking men from sites that turn young girls into crack whores, but isn’t there also the risk to you will be turning your young christian models from Lords work to that of pleasing man?
4) on the note of your package being within reach so God designed you to play with it…2 things, I can reach my nose with my fingers, should I walk around all day with my fingers up my nose, & Play with your package, have fun, whatever, but enjoy it for what it gives you not what you have to feed it!!!
By Sam, January 24, 2010 @ 6:05 am
Answer to Akwasi:
Yes! That would be fine. ….Talk about the Sacificial Lamb!
By Greg, January 28, 2010 @ 7:54 pm
This website is a tragic stumbling block to reaching the unsaved. We are all born of a sinful nature and thus, it is NATURAL to have these sexual feelings. However, the Bible commands that we put away our old sinful nature and that our unregenerate old person dies once we receive Christ as our Savior. We are to be holy as He is holy. Though we will still struggle to control our human nature, we are commanded to flee from it(sin).
Paul said that he would be everything to everyone in order to spread the gospel of Christ. This does NOT mean we, as Christians, accept the sexual immorality of the world in order to be on a “level playing field” to reach the unsaved. It means the opposite: that he, Paul, would gladly give up whatever he needed to NOT OFFEND those around him, i.e., drinking wine, etc. The comments on this website are designed to make people feel good about their sins instead of getting them to repent.
I believe we are all sinners, and am not being judgemental about anyone struggling with sexuality. We are, however, called to be DIFFERENT from the world, lights in the darkness. We are to abstain from the lusts of the flesh, not explain them into oblivion. Sin is sin. No amount of psycho-babble makes it okay.
Christ died for sinners, that we may have eternal life with him. We are, therefore, to fight against our human, sinful nature, which includes masturbation, pre-marital sex, etc. Is sex a sin? No, as long as it is in the Biblical confines of marriage. It is wrong and sinful to carryout these acts outside of marriage and the Bible is clear on this.
Paul rebukes the pagan temples throughout Asian
Minor because of their use of temple prostitutes. While, I understand that this website is not suggesting prostitution is ok, it is similar in the fact that it is promoting self pleasure over the things of a Holy God.
Your explanation that it must be okay to promote such practices because the Bible is supposedly silent on the matter is ridiculous. Does the Bible say explicitly that smoking crack is ok? No, it doesn’t. Does that mean it is ok? No. After all, people who do drugs are meerly trying to gain a sense of natural pleasure, to fill something in their lives as well, right? Perhaps that could be the topic of your next website.
Though I do not know the contents of anyone’s heart except my own, I firmly believe those who agree with the contents of this website are being misled. God does not require that we just do our best, He requires that we be holy. If He could send His only Son to die for a bunch of sinners like us, than why is it too much to ask that we refrain from purposly sinning? This doesn’t mean we will never struggle with sins of the flesh, just that we should not continue to live in that sin. My concern is that those of you who confess to be believers and agree with the message of this website will one day come before the throne of God, only to be told “Depart from me, I never knew you.”
By Sam, February 1, 2010 @ 1:16 pm
Reply to Greg:
Ha! Abstinence is what causes all those Priests, Ministers and Evangelalists to ‘harm the children’. The Pope even told his Churchmen not to do that: “Zero tollerance”. But, it’s been ignored and crimes against children, especially, have gone on because anytime there’s a forbiding of a natural act there are perverted repercussions. Priest’s Daughters are the first ones to run away from their Father’s inhibiting restaints of sexuality.
You have to face it. We’re God’s sexual creatures. You should revel in the wonder and beauty of that, not condem openminded Christians to be cast out from the Throne of God. Are you the one that casts the first stone?
ps …..Angels have sex all the time. They’ve come to me in my dreams!
By Akwasi, February 3, 2010 @ 11:50 am
Hello Sam:
You make an interesting reading! Tell me, you mean Angels come to have sex with you? Do you consider it okay?
Please, could you one of these days get a good, explicit picture of your wife (If you are married)on the net for all to view?
Have you ever heard of spiritual pairing or spiritual sexual infection?
You know the truth in your heart.
God loves you dearly because He has a wonderful plan for you. Do discover it!
By Sam, February 6, 2010 @ 10:34 am
Sure! It won’t be on the internet, though. The pic will be here.
ps….. I suppose it will get there eventually.
By A guy, February 9, 2010 @ 7:50 pm
THIS IS ALL FROM AN OPEN MINDED, AND WELL STUDIED GUY THAT JUST WANTS PEOPLE TO SEE THIS AS IT IS.
To make a note before I begin, I’m a christian guy, and have been addicted to porn in the past.
Lets begin with misconceptions. The bible is silent on self pleasure. Those people above who have claimed that it either allows or disallows it have read too far into passages that do not cover the subject. However, the bible is very clear on letting things come between God and yourself. (1st Commandment: “Thou shalt not put any idol before me”).
To respond to Greg, no, doing crack is not a sin.. unless.. A) it harms your body:
1 Corinthians 3:16-17 ESV
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.” (aka, people who abuse crack to an extent that it actually injures the body have sinned [generally crack users are addicts due to the extensively strong addictive nature of the drug which causes certain health violations and risks])
And B) if it is an addiction: which as said is very common due to the addictive nature of the drug crack actually pulls you away from god by turning a desire into a “necessity” causing you to put that as a false god before Him.
Now, on the subject of self pleasure, let it be stated that in no way is that act in and of itself written out to be a sin in the bible. However, this becomes a sin when A) it becomes an addiction: on this point, not all people are addicted to masturbation, and so can be avoided, however, it can very easily slip into one’s life as a “necessity” rather then just genuine release, and at that point it is putting an idol between yourself and God.
And it also can cause sin through B) lusting after others. the verse is clearly stated in about 4 posts already, that lusting after a woman or man that you are not married to is considered as the sin of adultery (in marriage) or fornication (out of marriage). It is also possible to give oneself pleasure and release without fantasizing about someone that you are not married to, but here’s where porn comes in.
ENTER porn’s issue, stage right:
porn naturally causes a desire for the woman or man that one sees in it. There are, I’m sure, a few who genuinely don’t think of the people they are looking directly at on the computer screen, however I believe that when most of us look at porn, we are looking and thinking on it. This is where violation of point B comes to hand. That is sin, and for that being sin, you should eliminate causes of sin as best you can in your life. Additionally porn combined with self pleasure has a much more addictive quality than self pleasure on it’s own. That addictive quality can, but does not always lead to addiction creating an idol (which violates point A).
It is my personal opinion, that masturbation is natural, and that self release can actually prevent sin, but it is clear that porn causes sin for all but the most resilient people that look at it, and for that reason there cannot be christian porn. A more interesting and less spoken upon subject (because it does not have such a simple argument as the one above), is: is fantasizing about fictional characters through stories or cartoon porn a sin? Can one fornicate with something that is fictional?
p.s. It is a valiant attempt at creating a way for release, but in the end, christian porn just can’t happen.
By Sam, March 16, 2010 @ 12:35 pm
Reply to Greg:
You are a misguided former porn guy, Greg!
You’re saying that you have repented now?
Too bad that you forgot how many were killed in the name of Christianity. Where are the Pagans who the Christians killed because they believed essentially in nature and matriarchal worship?
Maybe, just maybe, when you were interested in porn you were feeling natural, too.
In your Jan. 28th reply you start out saying that because we are all born sinners, then it is NATURAL (your words in caps)to have sexual feelings. I take it that you mean to say that sin equates to the natural feelings of sexuality?
Please! Don’t be an idiot! You can’t start out with a premise that makes no sense. How does natural sexuality infer sin? What you might say is that sin has to do with Christians killing in the name of religion. Now that’s a specific sin.
What is the commandment against sex again? Did you find it? Please let us know.
By cookie, March 31, 2010 @ 12:05 pm
As one who has had past problems with porn, I can tell you this, satin will use it as anything aginist you, if it means keeping you from a ralationship with Christ. Yes it is true that God gave us masterbation as a gift, but porn will lead you into sin because you will get hooked and you will start living for it. Next thing you know, wife gone, satins plan to destroy what God has brought together. It is true, don’t start. beautiful women are a gift from God, but don’t allow that as an excuse to view porn. It is all a lie, there is no such thing as “Christian porn”, just another lie by the devil, soon you will not get enough and you will find yourself looking at pure smut. I love looking at pretty women, but all sites on the net lead you to porn!
By cookie, March 31, 2010 @ 12:10 pm
Ask an alcoholic to just have one drink, it is ok, just one, what can it hurt. Now ask me to look at just one naked lady ingaged in masterbation, I can’t, I have to look at more leading to porn. self control, satin is more powerful than you and only Christ can lead you to the strait road. Greater is he within me then he that is in the world.
By To Kevin, April 5, 2010 @ 1:58 pm
‘I am not trying to be offensive or spiteful, but I can’t understand how you can say that nothing in scripture refutes what you are doing. When a man looks at a naked woman in porn (and I don’t care how “toned down” it is, he will naturally lust after her, which is clearly labeled as sinful in the above passage. My flesh would love nothing more than for you to be right so I could feel release from my own sexual frustration, but the Bible clearly states that its wrong. Do you have any response to that?’
In the previous paragraph, Jesus also equated anger with murder. Do you think he meant that we should throw people in prison when they get angry?
Do you think Jesus was commanding you to stop looking at women lustfully? But you can’t, can you? So do you think he literally meant to castrate yourself, gouge out your eyes, and cut off your hands in order to stop sinning? If so, why haven’t you done it? Are you sure that’s what he really meant?
I think you’re completely misunderstanding what he said. Jesus wasn’t saying “avoid getting angry and lusting at all costs”. He was just reiterating to the people what he said elsewhere: “All have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” He’s saying that it’s wrong to look at adulterers and murderers and think of them as beneath you; “Those people are sinners and I am righteous”. Instead, you should realize that we are all sinners and that we can’t stop sinning, no matter how hard we try. We will always get angry, and we will always lust, which is why he died on the cross to redeem us, so we wouldn’t need to feel guilty again.
By zhi, April 7, 2010 @ 1:54 am
Try to Read Joshua Harris book.. “not even a hint”.. it tackles Sexual issue and how it can vary to Christian Life.
Just remember:
Matthew 7:21-23 (New International Version)
21″Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
God Bless
By Alex, April 10, 2010 @ 10:18 am
Job 31:1
Matthew 5:27-30
Matthew 16:24
By Diana, April 29, 2010 @ 9:08 am
lol it seems like no one here even seen a bible.Read it sometime because no where does it say this is right.